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Wanderer Update:

There are three items listed:
Encounters & Discoveries
New Suit & Palettes
Rollerblades

 

I’m assuming that we will unlock the new suit when the Encounter & Discoveries has been completed? I hope the E&D have to do with one of the purple alien things otherwise, is that it for them? I see nothing on the DR that states anything about Alien/Purple anything...so is that it? Unlock and forget? Can't the story continue? Will the story continue? Or was that story just a one chapter romp?
Rollerblades sound cool and all but using history as a guide; they are going to be bugged and most likely not ready for prime time in May. As for the new suit.... I don't know about ya'll but my suit closet is full. I use one. Adding more is not giving me a thrill. I don't view them as something to get excited about or a bonus/addition of any way shape or form. I have a feeling the market is going to get flooded with suits most of which we will never use. 

 

The Friend Sized Update:

Dedicated Servers
Cross play Steam/Xbox
In-game server browsing…
Server management…
New development….
Horns for vehicles

The top four are spot on, IMHO. Horns for vehicles? I looked on this forum, dozens upon dozens of posts, not once me see horns. Why couldn’t “save games” or “Cartography & Discovery Objects” (which is listed as “potential” updates which is odd as players have been asking/begging for this type of things since 2016?) been put in place of horns? Not one request for horns, hundreds for Cartography/compass/beacons yet………………..again we go unheard

 

The Creative Update:

Standalone Creative Mode
New Terrain Brushes
Creative Mode Suit
True Flat
Usability & accessibility….

On the page it lists in pink Creative Mode with Standalone, brushes, suit and true flat. Does this mean that we will only be able to use the brushes, suit and true flat in creative mode only? On the surface this sure seems like a teeny tiny update.
Terrain Brushes will work? One Augment still don't. And if it does please someone show me how!
Another suit? Yawn. Sorry but after a while not so exciting. 
Usability & accessibility.... no idea what that is. Just like "a very interesting new development".... 

 

Potential Future Updates:
I’d rather see almost everything on this list implemented before almost everything listed above.

Can there be a “turn horn noise off” button for the MP host? In SP obviously I will use them once to hear what they sound like and never again. Much like fireworks, splitters & extenders!

 

Please, please have a legacy bug update. Please eliminate at least a dozen? 10? Some? A few? Please?

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I'm skipping the "future" stuff. I think the Encounters & Discoveries means more stuff to do on the surface but adds nothing to the end game. Which is fine.

I can't care for the suit colors. I am happy with the default settings and have little interest in customization of something so non-essential as the suit. I find it time wasting to fiddle with the settings.

Rollerblades need some explanation for me. The terrain is rough and I don't see how that could work, so if you have any extra info, share pls.

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6 hours ago, The Touch of Grey Gamer said:

Horns for vehicles? I looked on this forum, dozens upon dozens of posts, not once me see horns. Why couldn’t “save games” or “Cartography & Discovery Objects” (which is listed as “potential” updates which is odd as players have been asking/begging for this type of things since 2016?) been put in place of horns? Not one request for horns, hundreds for Cartography/compass/beacons yet……

Because creating a horn sound and applying it to an in-game button takes months of research, preparation, development and testing, whereas cartography is a 30-minute thing that any of their devs can do in their lunch break... 😎

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But, but, hundreds of thousands of players have been pleading for some cartography. Why would it be a future potential......
Why not just use what Satisfactory uses? 
So we can't get what we all want but we can get what we don't need or will use? How sad.

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Cartography would be something nice to have. Driving for hours when lost is not exactly my idea of a fun time.

And yeah, SES "got some 'splainin' to do" with rollerblades...

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10 minutes ago, vvhorus said:

Cartography would be something nice to have. Driving for hours when lost is not exactly my idea of a fun time.

And yeah, SES "got some 'splainin' to do" with rollerblades...

But why give us what no one asked for? Roller blades? 
Ok rollerblades so where do I get my oxygen from? A tether still? Or am I carrying a portable oxygenator, some organic to run that, rollerblades, some fuel for that, plus a light or two, an oxygen tank, so now how many free slots do we have remaining? And come on, it is going to be 100% bug free and WAD? Well, if it is, it would be the very first time. So if I have to climb I have to save a slot in my backpack for the rollerblades? 

Can't they just pay the nice folks at Satisfactory for their cartography? It is beyond perfect. You always know what direction is where and always know where you home base is. Why is this game made to satisfy the lowest common denominator? Additional resources are a possibly maybe? Really? We don't even have a use for Astronium. I'd be more than willing to pay for DLC if they contained what we've been asking for years now. At worst SES will break even. Even if cartography is so much more difficult than horns. Just figure out the cost and charge the DLC accordingly. I'd rather pay for the game I want then not have the opportunity to have a real cartography or legacy bugs addressed. Can't they do a some type of survey to see what % of people that own the game would pay to have legacy bugs fixed? Why are they just not important to SES? 

Why not just fix what is broken and what has been begged for, for months and months and years in some cases? A save game? Really? We can't have a manual save game ability? It's not like we are asking for things that have not been produced in games for years and years. All of these things have been done for decades by more than one game company.

And we will be ignored yet again......

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48 minutes ago, The Touch of Grey Gamer said:

But why give us what no one asked for? Roller blades? 
Ok rollerblades so where do I get my oxygen from? A tether still? Or am I carrying a portable oxygenator, some organic to run that, rollerblades, some fuel for that, plus a light or two, an oxygen tank, so now how many free slots do we have remaining? And come on, it is going to be 100% bug free and WAD? Well, if it is, it would be the very first time. So if I have to climb I have to save a slot in my backpack for the rollerblades? 

Then the update had better come with a bigger backpack. Otherwise that's what we're going to have to deal with on top of all of the bugs. It is pure insanity to say "Well, you can't play the game because it lags/crashes/you fall through the ground. But here's a super important piece of equipment that will probably kill you on every space of uneven ground. Good luck!"

7 hours ago, mystikro said:

Rollerblades need some explanation for me. The terrain is rough and I don't see how that could work, so if you have any extra info, share pls.

I can see it now: Your Astroneer is a skid mark at the bottom of the bunny hill....for the 47th time.

I just looked at the road map and can someone help me out here? What purpose does a 'space snail' have? And what is it? Maybe, it's an extremely slow moving object in space that is inaccessible? Also, if you look at their 'Known Issues in Live Game' there isn't a single report of crashing during play other than the shuttle bug. The rest of the issues, however, can be found on the forum. Are they picking the most likely simpler to fix bugs and ignoring the possibly more complex ones?

I had this thought that maybe, and it's just a thought mind you, SES isn't experiencing any of these issues and refuses to acknowledge the greater part of the community that does. Not an accusation, just a thought bouncing around my cranium. It would explain a lot too. So maybe, rollerblades work great on their end but will cause a thermo-nuclear explosion for us.

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Calm down my fellow grumpy fans! The Personal Mobility Object is the jetpack, not rollerblades. That's a joke added recently after it was very obviously a jetpack, then they showed it to us. 

Look

 

Also, the Space Snails are a long-standing joke, vlog 21 has some references to them in October 2017. They're trying to have some fun on the roadmap after gutting it (or 'tightening it up' depending on how you look at it) Maybe, one day, they'll finally make it into the game... Maybe... 

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I keep forgetting they completely ignore their own forum. That's why we're not in on the joke. Were in the wrong platform. Silly us for thinking that we too could be part of the SES development team.
How silly of me to think that those of us that post here, that paid for the game, should get equal attention from the devs. What was I thinking!?!?!?! 
I guess they only have time for reddit and facebook and twitter and twitch etc. they just don't have the time to post here, on their own forum. Brilliant! 

Communications #1! 

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Once they fix the freeze bug I will close my Discord account and stop coming to the forum. I don't feel it is worth it to get too involved. You have to constantly complain and complain before someone notices you or the problem. That is, unless some wiseass that doesn't get the same bugs you do calls you the problem, hater, says your hardware is bad (despite running the game at max with 60fps), acting all snobish and elitist, ganging up on you to tell you it's your fault for not providing a crash log (when the game doesn't output one). It's a shitshow and I'm exhausted. The biggest flaw is that the devs rely too much on the Discord server and even there the communication is very scarce. It feels off putting. It's toxic and I already screamed into the void for other developers too on games way bigger than this. And I'm tired of hearing the same low effort excuse "well, they're a small team". As if big and small is a factor that should influence the quality of communication. I'm surprised that the people on Discord that get all triggered and gang up like a cult aren't saying that the game should actually suck because they are a small dev team and being good is reserved for the big teams. It seems that as long as they are a small team everything that is bad, is not only fine, it is intended to be so. Because we all know, small businesses are the worst kind, amirite? It's the big, mega coorporations where the quality and transparency is at, right? We live in a clown world.

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7 hours ago, The Touch of Grey Gamer said:

I keep forgetting they completely ignore their own forum. That's why we're not in on the joke. Were in the wrong platform. Silly us for thinking that we too could be part of the SES development team.
How silly of me to think that those of us that post here, that paid for the game, should get equal attention from the devs. What was I thinking!?!?!?! 
I guess they only have time for reddit and facebook and twitter and twitch etc. they just don't have the time to post here, on their own forum. Brilliant! 

Communications #1! 

I very much agree. What about those of us who weren't apart of EA and didn't know it was a joke. The fact that we paid for the game isn't a joke, neither is the fact that a large portion of the time (since just after release in my experience) the game has been a steaming pile of unplayable 💩. If we are so unimportant as well as many who have tried to contact SES via Discord, why don't they just shut the forum down. We're all just a bunch of whiny children apparently anyways.

8 hours ago, Blind Io said:

Calm down my fellow grumpy fans! The Personal Mobility Object is the jetpack, not rollerblades. That's a joke added recently after it was very obviously a jetpack, then they showed it to us. 

Yes, I am grumpy. At times I'm downright pissy. I get that if the game doesn't work 90% of the time I should find something else to do. I do just that. I play a different game, I come on here and with my limited experience try to assist those that have questions related to that limited experience, or I go do something not related to anything electronic at all. But, I play and enjoy the game when it does work. I'm grumpy because I paid money (for some insane reason really doesn't grow on trees) for something advertised as a working full release product. I got a game that is somewhat in beta, somewhat not depending on the day of the week it seems. When they put out another update, I really hope I actually get to use the jetpack without the game (and this is the only one I have that does it) telling my pc to eff off and die.

1 hour ago, mystikro said:

Once they fix the freeze bug I will close my Discord account and stop coming to the forum. I don't feel it is worth it to get too involved. You have to constantly complain and complain before someone notices you or the problem. That is, unless some wiseass that doesn't get the same bugs you do calls you the problem, hater, says your hardware is bad (despite running the game at max with 60fps), acting all snobish and elitist, ganging up on you to tell you it's your fault for not providing a crash log (when the game doesn't output one). It's a shitshow and I'm exhausted. The biggest flaw is that the devs rely too much on the Discord server and even there the communication is very scarce. It feels off putting. It's toxic and I already screamed into the void for other developers too on games way bigger than this. And I'm tired of hearing the same low effort excuse "well, they're a small team". As if big and small is a factor that should influence the quality of communication. I'm surprised that the people on Discord that get all triggered and gang up like a cult aren't saying that the game should actually suck because they are a small dev team and being good is reserved for the big teams. It seems that as long as they are a small team everything that is bad, is not only fine, it is intended to be so. Because we all know, small businesses are the worst kind, amirite? It's the big, mega coorporations where the quality and transparency is at, right? We live in a clown world.

Good point. When I first came on here, another member was telling me to post my system specs along with several other members. HTF is posting my specs going to fix the game? I wouldn't have bought the game if my pc didn't meet the minimum requirements (which if anyone cares, sits right below recommended). I made my point to them and as far as I've seen, the member mentioned hasn't "contributed" his opinion on system specs since. I looked through the forum at other user's posts and came to the conclusion that the hardware spectrum of bug reporters was too broad for hardware to be an issue. If hardware was the problem, the major issues would be isolated to a specific manufacturer, chipset, etc. But it's not. It's not a bad idea to post your specs but when you think that typing something into this magic box is going to magically fix the game, you may need to rethink that.

Again, excellent point. I am sure if you go on Steam (or whatever store is your preference) you would probably find that quite a few indie games that have done well are made by small teams. Take Dragon Age 2 for example. That was a AAA company and it sucked. I love the games BioWare has put out in the past but that one almost killed the franchise for me. I pre-purchased the game, played for about two or three days and quit. I just finished it earlier this year for the simple reason of continuity. Small teams have a big advantage over large companies. They tend to put more love and care into the game because they're not an assembly line like most large companies are. I know I'll probably be burned at the stake for heresy for saying this but even CoD started to suck after a while. More of the same assembly line crap over and over with a different look. I could keep going but I don't want to beat the proverbial dead horse. 

Maybe I am a whiner. Although, I did pay for the right to whine when the 💩 broke the fan. If/after this stupidity is resolved, I may apologize for being a d*ck but not before. And no sir, I did not say duck....stupid auto correct...

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14 minutes ago, GeneralMayonaise said:

Yes, I am grumpy. 

Me too. That's what 'fellow' means. I've been very clear that I think the 1.0 launch was an enormous mistake. Please don't mistake my forum posts as being 'on their side'.

I'm still holding out hope that they'll make the game playable in Xbox, but I've got other shit to do. And I've had hundreds of hours for $15 so I'm happy to draw a line. 

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I don't think you're on their side @Blind Io. I've seen enough of your posts to know that. Didn't find their joke very funny is all. I apologize if I offended, it wasn't my intention.

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Best User Experience Webby Award. Ha Ha Ha! Now that's comedy. I love some good sarcasm. I can rate my experience 10/10 for the past week. Mostly because I experienced GTA V a lot and it was fun since Astroneer couldn't actually keep a session running no more than a Viagra dependent man can keep things on the up in the lack of the adequate medicine. So, yeah, Astroneer did give me the best user experience playing another game. *honk-honk*.

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@diseasedmeat yeah I don't think they will be coming here ever again. This place is full of people telling the truth. How can they come here now after how many times they claimed to be putting more effort into communication yet never come to their own forum to walk the walk not just talk the talk. Not even once? 

I feel that if they came here and tried to pass of the same *rhetoric* that they spew in other platforms they would be met with the TRUTH, and a lot of it. I think it is just so much easier for them to allow the continuous fan-boy smoke to be blowin up their backsides rather than put on their big boy pants and confront the truth that is this forum.  

I remember during the whole vehicle steering debacle and at that same time someone on staff sadly passed. I remember a video with some woman saying something to the effect "we are going to make a concerted effort to communicate better". She should have put in the disclaimer "except for our own company forum." 

Then a few months later I saw Joe on a video spewing some line about "better communications" and just like the lady, Joe no be here ever either!

They got slammed here for more than a year because they could not fix their own steering issues. They created the issue yet we here get ignored for it! 
They got slammed here daily for their very own ridiculous storm settings. They created the issue yet we get ignored for it!
So I suppose in those two instances if we here on this forum; never complained once and told them how great they are, they would not despise us now? 

It states on this forum.......

Suggestions & Ideas
Use this forum to request features and brainstorm on the game

Support & Suggestions
Ask questions and get answers about Astroneer

Ever see a company response? Yeah me neither! 
 

I don't know how or why we here on this forum have become SES's enemy. It is abundantly clear this is how SES wants this relationship to be. We don't ignore SES. On the contrary, we have asked, begged, pleaded all to no avail. We here have asked a thousand questions never once to get a response. I think we are holding up our end of the communications agreement that they posted on their own forum. SES puts it in writing on the forum. So were getting ignored for doing what they ask of us? They ask for feedback. We give it to them. They ignore.  

I'm not going to apologize for telling the truth. I'm not going to tell SES the game is 100% when it is not. I'm not going to lie to them, although for them to say the same would be just that. I've been stating the same legitimate complaints consistently on this forum. Why? Because SES does not respond or address. 

When SES states they are going to improve communications (at least twice) and don't come here once, that is a bold faced lie. Plain and simple. That is a fact. SES lies. That fact can't be argued by anyone. 

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On 5/17/2019 at 6:57 PM, Blind Io said:

Calm down my fellow grumpy fans! The Personal Mobility Object is the jetpack, not rollerblades. That's a joke added recently after it was very obviously a jetpack, then they showed it to us. 

Look

 

Also, the Space Snails are a long-standing joke, vlog 21 has some references to them in October 2017. They're trying to have some fun on the roadmap after gutting it (or 'tightening it up' depending on how you look at it) Maybe, one day, they'll finally make it into the game... Maybe... 

Must be a bad inside joke, because I didn't get it. Whoever goes to the trello site will see the word "rollerblades," and probably will expect that item to be added to the game. Nowhere says it's a joke...

Instead of cryptic jokes in the trello site, how about brief but real descriptions of what's coming?

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On 5/17/2019 at 4:51 PM, The Touch of Grey Gamer said:

But why give us what no one asked for? Roller blades? 
Ok rollerblades so where do I get my oxygen from? A tether still? Or am I carrying a portable oxygenator, some organic to run that, rollerblades, some fuel for that, plus a light or two, an oxygen tank, so now how many free slots do we have remaining? And come on, it is going to be 100% bug free and WAD? Well, if it is, it would be the very first time. So if I have to climb I have to save a slot in my backpack for the rollerblades? 

Can't they just pay the nice folks at Satisfactory for their cartography? It is beyond perfect. You always know what direction is where and always know where you home base is. Why is this game made to satisfy the lowest common denominator? Additional resources are a possibly maybe? Really? We don't even have a use for Astronium. I'd be more than willing to pay for DLC if they contained what we've been asking for years now. At worst SES will break even. Even if cartography is so much more difficult than horns. Just figure out the cost and charge the DLC accordingly. I'd rather pay for the game I want then not have the opportunity to have a real cartography or legacy bugs addressed. Can't they do a some type of survey to see what % of people that own the game would pay to have legacy bugs fixed? Why are they just not important to SES? 

Why not just fix what is broken and what has been begged for, for months and months and years in some cases? A save game? Really? We can't have a manual save game ability? It's not like we are asking for things that have not been produced in games for years and years. All of these things have been done for decades by more than one game company.

And we will be ignored yet again......

Sadly, this game has gone to the "whatever" list for me. The one feature I was most excited about for launch (dedicated servers) so I can play with friends and share a world with them was pushed back. Multiplayer is mostly unplayable, and playing with friends in a stable environment is very important to us. Having to curse at the game every 5 minutes for dropping the frame rate to 4-5 or respawning removed terrain is not fun for any of us.

The lack of dev involvement in these forums is a symptom of an apparent bigger problem: knowledgeable manpower. I've been suggesting for over a year to add a "like/upvote" feature to these forums and the ability to edit our own posts beyond the 5-minute time limit, which are easy things to do in the Invision control panel, but here we are. Also it took them 3 months to edit out the "early access" phrase from the forum title. If they can't even do these simple changes to their own forum (which is packaged software, they don't need to code anything), I don't have much faith in them adding anything like cartography.

I go to other game forums and I see how involved the devs are with their forum community on a daily basis, yet this team completely neglects it. These forums are a ghost town because of SES's own making.

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On 5/30/2019 at 3:50 PM, vvhorus said:

Sadly, this game has gone to the "whatever" list for me. The one feature I was most excited about for launch (dedicated servers) so I can play with friends and share a world with them was pushed back.

 

The sad thing is they made teaser trailers and interviews on gaming events about dedicated servers and more players (I think 6 was the plan), in the last minute they told us out of a sudden it isn't ready for 1.0 release (this alone proves they weren't honest to us in early access), and more or less claimed it will come with the next content update. Ok that's fine but after several months nothing about dedicated servers, no news, no status update. I have a feeling dedicated servers are cancelled completely, they just won't tell us.

Also I would like to hear a status update about storms, it feels so lifeless now. I guess we won't see an update either for this.

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1 hour ago, mikk said:

I have a feeling dedicated servers are cancelled completely, they just won't tell us.

Also I would like to hear a status update about storms, it feels so lifeless now. I guess we won't see an update either for this.

Nah, they've commented that they're setting up the server providers fairly recently. Servers are coming, they just won't admit how much they fucked up the timeline. Ever. Apologies and explanations aren't an SES strong point. 

Weather/storms was one of the few things that survived the roadmap cull. They're keen to have more varied storms, more suited to the various planets. They need to make the game work better first though, and that's a relative term. 

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31 minutes ago, Blind Io said:

Weather/storms was one of the few things that survived the roadmap cull. They're keen to have more varied storms, more suited to the various planets. They need to make the game work better first though, and that's a relative term. 

 

But only in the potential future updates section.

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in the end i bought this game back in EA days, early ea days and im like blind io, i got my moneys worth already form this game, i have had many many many hrs, they have repaid my investment back, i would love for them to fix alot of the issues but even if they quit as it is now, i will still have hrs left to mess around in multiplayer with brother. As much as i think its complete horse shit that SeS gives the forums very little attention, i do know that they are a super small studio with not more then i would say 20-25 ppl (unless im wrong) i just enjoy what they have done and only hope, i dont expect just hope that it gets better. I do need dedicated servers though.....

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