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Why are trucks and rovers still using simple round slab wheels? In this space future shouldn't the wheels themselves be spheres and allow for travel in any direction, much like the control interface is currently working? Forget steering, just push the entire vehicle in the direction you want. 

I recommend removing the big chunky wheels/tires and replacing them with an up-gradable traction sphere option. Perhaps even options to allow for sticky tires, water tires, underwater tires, spiky tires, paddle tires, and the end game anti-grav tires. Essentially a tire type specific to the type of terrain you are on. 

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Some benefits to a traction sphere based approach:

 

Pivoting your truck/rover/vehicle in place. 

Simple control interface. No more wondering what direction left is going to go because of how  the camera is facing. 

Resue of assets between vehicles. Could be used for anything from a single sphere gyrobike, to a 10 sphere disc shaped resource gatherer. 

Allow more variations of vehicles and vehicle types. Think single sphere storage trailer. Or a first tier exploring bike. 

Allow a traction sphere to detach and become a scout bike. 

Simplify things with a traction computer that holds the upgrade slots for the nano deployed traction spheres. This would hold the different sphere types to be used. Limiting how many sphere types are available in the particular vehicle. 

Gives another class of vehicle at maximum expansion, the Hover/Flying truck. 

Flying truck requires extra beam reinforcement when trailering. Cant have a floppy flying truck. 

 

This also allows for some amusing drawbacks:

No way to brake the vehicle if its out of power. It will just roll to the low spot. 

Using non optimal sphere types on certain terrain would increase power draw, affect traction, handling, and speed.

Making the spheres separate entities from the vehicle would allow for them to become consumable, or allow for a damaged sphere.

 

Kinda new at the suggestion/feedback thing. Missed adding in all this other stuff. If I'm missing something obvious why this wouldn't be feasible,  please let me know. 

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They just hired someone to overhaul vehicles. Blog post about it here - http://blog.astroneer.space/system-era/aaron-biddlecom/

Though it's brief and doesn't go into much detail. Guess we have to see what he has planned for us and go from there, though the mention of "brand-new mechanics and interactions" sounds interesting. There could already be some cool new things in the works, or maybe completely new vehicle designs.

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8 hours ago, pulsard said:

Why are trucks and rovers still using simple round slab wheels? In this space future shouldn't the wheels themselves be spheres and allow for travel in any direction, much like the control interface is currently working? Forget steering, just push the entire vehicle in the direction you want. 

This is how people in the past expect what our present might look like

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Notice the fact that we didn't get to ride any giant seahorse robot, or flying animal control unit

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11 hours ago, pulsard said:

Why are trucks and rovers still using simple round slab wheels? In this space future shouldn't the wheels themselves be spheres and allow for travel in any direction, much like the control interface is currently working? Forget steering, just push the entire vehicle in the direction you want. 

Actually, this isn't a bad idea, modern day forklifters have wheels with cylinders attached as to provide seamless and smooth turning, fast acceleration, and even ground. This is what the Mythbusters use for much of their weighty projects. 

Image result for mythbusters forklift

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11 hours ago, pulsard said:

No way to brake the vehicle if its out of power. It will just roll to the low spot. 

Also, the brakes are non-electrical. They would just be simple pad brakes, unless electromagnets are used to support the sphere-wheels

 

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If the wheels can rotate along all 3 axes, then you no longer need to turn the vehicle in order to drive it in a certain direction - the wheels can simply start rolling in the direction you wish to travel, whether that be backwards left right north-east whatever. That means you'd have to use WASD relative to the camera angle otherwise there's really only 8 directions you could go in (W, WA, A, AS, S, SD, D, DW). It'd be just like controlling the astroneer. Cool idea really, but the mechanic is really a lot similar to the hovercraft.

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23 hours ago, Sidegamer said:

Actually, this isn't a bad idea, modern day forklifters have wheels with cylinders attached as to provide seamless and smooth turning, fast acceleration, and even ground. This is what the Mythbusters use for much of their weighty projects. 

Yeah. I'd prefer having a hovercraft than to have something this weird and complex

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On 2/27/2017 at 7:23 PM, Lithium said:

This is how people in the past expect what our present might look like

Wired8.jpg.e6ce2a58774a219399ff740e39777221.jpgWired12.jpg.bcd8d471408eed6a3696c84fe47dbd2a.jpg

Notice the fact that we didn't get to ride any giant seahorse robot, or flying animal control unit

(off topic sorta)Lol humans cant even drive cars properly. Now let them fly cars -_- 

honestly im pretty sure it would be possible but.... its a game so whatever the developers feel comfortable with :o

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Spherical wheels could make sense on a perfectly flat road, on a rough surface however they become less practical. Spheres have a single point of contact with the surface and would have less traction than regular tires. Spherical tires would be prone to poor traction, sinking in sand, and other performance issues when off road. In addition there is no way to physically attach them to the rover, no conventional axle could be used which means you are relying on incredibly complex magnetic forces. IMO Too complicated and not enough benefit

The wheels Sidegamer posted are interesting and great for forklifts on flat surfaces. However on off-road surfaces like dirt/sand the small contact area of the cones might prevent them from being able to get traction and move the vehicle side to side. However in the 25th century who knows how far they take that wheel concept, this is plausible

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On 2/27/2017 at 4:23 PM, Lithium said:

This is how people in the past expect what our present might look like

Wired8.jpg.e6ce2a58774a219399ff740e39777221.jpgWired12.jpg.bcd8d471408eed6a3696c84fe47dbd2a.jpg

Notice the fact that we didn't get to ride any giant seahorse robot, or flying animal control unit

SEE??? NO WHEELS!!!

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