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1.16.70.0 - Steam - Fuelless Relanding Resets Desolo
MightyLB posted a topic in Bug Reports, Crashes
Summary: 1.16.70.0 - Steam - Fuel-less Re-landing on RESETS DESOLO Description: The Short Version: Going back to Sylva after first trip to Desolo, I didn't have enough fuel, so I had to re-land my shuttle. I touch back down on Desolo, and EVERYTHING I'd done there was gone — Desolo had reset! The Long Version: My first ever playthrough, and I go to Desolo for wolframite. I leave with a small shuttle, oxygenator, and solid-fuel thruster. I decide to land by the gateway cube and make my Desolo HQ there. I land, poke around, have trouble finding a natural cave entrance, so I figure I'd blast off again and poke around on the other side of that moon to find one. I do that and still don't find a cave. I decide to go back to spot #1 and just keep digging down from the surface where I'd already been digging resin until I found a cave. I find a cave, wolframite, and half of a set of jasper chess pieces, I build a bunch of stuff — you get the idea. I load up the shuttle to go back to Sylva. I know I'll need to do two trips with the amount of stuff I've found, but I also know I have one use of my thruster left because the description says four uses and I'd already used three. I blast off, I get a pop up message saying I'm out of fuel, but then I can't click anywhere on Sylva to land. I didn't get the "planet selection" map or see any "landing zone" gray bubbles on Sylva. I thought I must've misunderstood how the thruster worked, but I see that I can click on Desolo again. I decide to land the shuttle on the pad I'd already set up back at my Desolo base, but there's no "landing zone" bubble to click on for that spot. I click next bubble over to land, and head over to my HQ area on foot. Nothing I'd done is there. The digging, the modules, the vehicles — everything I'd done was gone and Desolo looks like it did when I first got there. I go back to the shuttle, exit the game and close the program. I restart the program, and reload the game, but Desolo in still in it's reset state. The weird thing is, my ship and backpack still have everything I'd loaded them up with earlier (not any the chess pieces, sadly). Aside from not saving all of my progress to the same save file again so that reloading at an earlier point is rendered impossible, anything I can do about this? It seems to me like I have to start over if Desolo's glitched like this. Also, let me know if you want more details for troubleshooting purposes. I've attached some "before" and "after" screenshots of that area of Desolo, including ones I took as my shuttle lifted off the last time. Platform: Steam Version / Build Number: 1.16.70.0 Specifications: OS: Windows 7 Home Premium (Yeah, I know it's not being updated anymore.) CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.40 GHz GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980Ti 6GB RAM: Corsair Dominator 2x8GB DDR4 1600Hz Drive: Western Digital WD Black 2TB -
A new idea I had because of the large automation update, players may be struggling for power. So to compensate, a new generator run by a new fuel, helium-3, based on the real nuclear fusion concept. This new generator would be able to handle an enormous base with no trouble and the main trade-off would be the super advanced materials needed to construct the reactor and the method of acquiring the helium-3 wouldn’t be easy to allow other generators to continue as currently designed. (The idea comes from another space game that talks about this concept)
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Allow Medium Canisters to hold Gas and hydrazine. This would help with storage and traveling and adds more use to this underrated gem of an unlock.
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I think I've made a fatal mistake. Flying to the moon with no oxygenator or additional resource (like aluminium). Plus my thruster is out of juice so I can't get back to home. Anyone find any resource on the barren moon so I can fuel a thruster or build an oxygenator so I can use tethers? I'm dreading having to start a new game. I've unlocked a few gates on my homeworld which took ages! #schoolboyerror
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I read on the wiki that it takes 1/2 a canister of fuel to launch from a planet (Terran) into orbit. I usually have a full tank plus two canisters with fuel when I launch. My camera was oriented to watch the shuttle, and when I launched, both canisters were emptied. It should have only been 1/2 of a canister. I haven't tried measuring the fuel usage. I think I should be able to launch-land 10 times on the tank; or 12 with the two canisters. (At least, that's what the wiki says.) So this may be a visual issue.
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Before going into detail about this idea I want to thank forum user franekdolas_eu for creating the awesome 3D model shown in the pictures below. franekdolas_eu was able to take my 2D concept drawings and turn them into a fully realised 3D model over the last month. If you like the work that they have done here, please drop them a message to let them know. "The best kind of community is one where its members support one another". Now, on to the concept: Overview The Fuel Tank Module (could alternatively be called the Fuel Storage Module) would be a Large Tier object that would be used to store a large amount of Hydrazine Fuel, as well as being able to automatically pump it at the touch of a button directly into any spacecraft docked at the same base. The Module would be placed on a Large Platform or Rover, occupying the same amount of space as any other Module. It would require power in order to operate when pumping it's contents out to the spacecraft, though not when it is being filled with Fuel. The Module would be able to hold up to 40 canister's worth of Hydrazine Fuel inside it's two Fuel Tanks, the amount inside being visible due to the transparent sides to each tank (just like with the Fuel Condenser Module). The amount can also be measured by looking at the display at the front of the Module, which fills up as the main Fuel Tanks fill. The display is marked at certain intervals, indicating when the Module is a quarter full, half full, three quarters full and of course, completely full. At the front of the module is an attachment slot that functions much like the attachment slot on the front of the Mineral Extractor, except that instead of draining soil from any canister that is placed there, it would instead drain Hydrazine Fuel into the module's internal Fuel Tanks. Also; like the Extractor, you would be able to drain multiple canisters quickly by placing down a Medium Storage Unit filled with full canisters onto the Large Platform or Rover that houses the Fuel Tank Module. The canisters would then auto-attach and drain their contents one after the other into the Module. This feature could allow you to fill up an entire 'rack' or 'pallet' of canisters with Hydrazine Fuel, either at a Fuel Condenser or a Hydrazine Catalyser, then simply pickup and transfer the pallet to the Fuel Tank Module, which when then drain them. Question: How does the Fuel get from the Fuel Tank Module to the spacecraft? Answer: In order to refuel your spacecraft, simply land them at a Vehicle Bay (or landing pad if that feature is included in a future update) that is connected to the same base that your Fuel Tank Module is connected to. Next, 'dock' the spacecraft to the Vehicle Bay by attaching the flat connecter cable from the Vehicle Bay to the Spacecraft. Once that is done, head over to your Fuel Tank Module and switch it on (you interact with it the same way that you do with most of the existing Modules, by click and holding over it). This starts the inbuilt pump, which pumps the Fuel out of the Fuel Tanks and out to the Vehicle Bay, via the platforms and cables that link the Fuel Tank Module and the Vehicle Bay Module together. The Fuel being transferred would be represented by a series of purple indicators that alternate with the power indicators on the cables themselves (see last image). Once the Fuel reaches the Vehicle Bay it is then pumped into the spacecraft's own Fuel Tank via the connector cable docking it to the Vehicle Bay. This entire process would be the same if both Fuel Tank Module and Vehicle Bay where on either the same or connected Rovers. In fact, if you have a Rover with either Module, then docking it with a base with the other Module would allow for the transfer of fuel in either direction. For example, if you have multiple bases with Vehicle Bays, you could use a Rover with a Fuel Tank Module to transfer the Fuel from one base to the other. If the receiving base has an empty Fuel Tank Module you could transfer the Fuel from one to the other by switching in the Module that contains the Fuel. If the Rover has a Vehicle Bay attached to it's back, then any spacecraft that then land there could then be refuelled and ready to take off again. As the Fuel Tank Module can hold 40 canisters worth of fuel, this would allow you to store enough fuel to refuel your Shuttle eight times, or refuel your Large Shuttle four times. This is equal to five Medium Storage Units filled with full canisters of Hydrazine Fuel. Once the Fuel Tank Module is empty (or even before it is empty), you can simply fill it back up again with more Fuel. If you go crazy and build multiple Fuel Tank Modules at the same base, then the Module that is closest to the Vehicle Bay would be drained first, before the next closest being drained, and so on. Question: What is the point of this? Surely you can just fill up your spacecraft directly and then set the Fuel Condenser or Hydrazine Catalyser to refill your canisters? Answer: The dev team have been mentioning in recent months that they want to increase the number of players in one game. When the dedicated servers come online later this year that will be another step towards having larger (and hopefully more stable) games. Imagine for a moment you have a game in with lots of players, all wanting to go to different places and planets. Your team of Astroneers could split up into multiple groups and head to different planets via their own Large Shuttles. Each group might be ferrying supplies to and from those planets, which is going to require lots of fuel. Instead of having to wait until a full set of canisters to be filled up, you can just set your Fuel Condenser and/or Hydrazine Catalyser going whilst you go through the first lot of Fuel you created. Once you get back to base the canisters should be all (or mostly all) filled. You can then just place the Medium Storage Unit holding your canisters on to the Fuel Tank Module, refilling it. A single trip is not going to burn through all the Fuel a Large Shuttle is capable of holding, so each time you come back you will have made more Fuel then needed, leading to the need for some where to store it. You don't want to have to keep making more and more canisters to hold it all, so you will need some place to store it. It would also be handy for those players who (like me) like to stockpile their supplies for when they need them. Hence, I give you... The Fuel Tank Module. If you have any questions, go ahead and ask. Once again, my thanks to franekdolas_eu for creating the excellent 3D model shown below. Enjoy the pictures! ?