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Not sure what direction the game is taking. Like many new developers, they seem to take their cue from core players. Also like many new developers, they begin changing the very things that made it Unique and enjoyable to the core players. I would offer this penny wisdom. When you hear that your core players want things to be "harder" or "more challenging" you are making it that way for everyone, including brand new players. Many of the same players who ask for the difficulty and challenges will later ask for “quality of life" items. In terms of development hours, you are making it hard, then creating all new "and a growing" lists of artifacts to offset the grind or Difficulty. Every time these changes are made, you'll hear "well that's great, but still not quite right" or "they did this, but what about that?" By far the very worst requested additions or outright changes are just plaguing games. I term them these requests as, "gamers who want to play dress up in their barbie house on the farm, while being far, far away from the west side trolls, who want to overly engineer their lair full of stolen items." Commonly referring to more skins / appearance controls, base building, farming and pvp. There is an expectation of restarting a game during Alpha and Beta play. Core game players knows this. The game is Under development, which includes testing, breaking, and fine-tuning items and mechanics. The core players are acting as debuggers first, giving feedback second, and in some cases may make suggestions May make it into the game. Once released, out of beta into full release the game is done. New players in Full release are not debuggers. Development that continues on a full release should not occur, unless the full release has bugs not reported before, due to a larger audience. By continuing to develop and making major changes and additions to a game, puts the game Squarely Back in Beta. It is Not a Full Release. The concept of working on a full release game with patches to fix issues was not meant to become a way of life in our games. Introducing any of this into the Original completion line messes up the new player base. Players who came to the game to explore, discover, and accomplish needed tasks deserve to revel in the same atmosphere, learn the process, and enjoy uncovering the mystery. This is not only off-putting and grindy, it's downright unfair to those who are using what free time they have, to attempt to get to the end game, That's the Gift. It is not a gift to lose progress because of updates and game breaking mechanics. Forgive me if catering to the current players and their revenue stream is the priority. Please understand, as I approach 1200 hours, that I include myself, even as I have created multiple ways of playing, but do not stream. What makes things worse are the requests made by players that are not Playing the game. They are done with the game, some never played the game, or they are in exile from other games. They ruin games by cutting off the legs of great concepts. Allow me to repeat, THEY ARE NOT PLAYING THE GAME. These players are intent on building a McMansion or the Scariest Armed Private Settlement. Including but not limited to, furniture, decorations, windows, flooring, etc. By and by the requests lead to "creative mode". It's not cheating, because they Don't want to play the game.” Other players chime in with "we just want to get our stuff back." Playing multiplayer with the creative McMansion players is not a game. Instead they bring other member players in to fetch them things while they create something inside a game that already has a quest line. On the other end of the spectrum, the adversarial players who brings in a small group of like-minded antagonists, hell bent on demoralizing and burning down everything outside their territory.Was that part of the game? Playing through the challenges and surprises to get to the end, only as long as we didnt have to lose anything? Or is it more a consequence of making too many changes. To be fair, the Original game quest line was not overtly difficult, so this mode is not about the game being hard. If there was no clear idea of How to expand on the Original concept, and development is still taking place, then take more time to consider how to keep it Unique and less time Morphing the game into a clone of another game, “ It sort of reminds me of InsertGame a little. I wish it had xxx”. Having said that, if I may offer some examples that I feel emulate the Unique concept and still manages to grant the non-players a way enjoy gaming their way. Old suggestions always return for a reason. The Origin end game should allow the player to enter a new universe, with new planets. Not Additional Planets in the Same Core Completion line. Not the same planets with a new look. (At least not so similar that it's an obvious reskin) This would give long time players the difficulty and challenges. If it cannot be implemented because it is so much work that it's really another game, and no sarcasm intended here, perhaps stop working on the finished game. The completion of one area Without bringing in items from another completion line offers a new challenge for players and less coding. Being brought to or landing in a new quadrant or universe without old objects also allows for greater stability and all new dynamics. (If time and code permitted, wormholes for travel would stay in concept, if connecting these places ever took place.) Challenges do not necessarily involve making every planet and place more and more hostile, but could offer more realistic challenges. Non rotational gravity gradient moons and asteroids etc.. Abandoned space stations objects and satellites to investigate, scavenge, repair or destroy. Occasionally finding meteorites. Meteors, asteroids and other celestial debris offer many different things in terms of craftable materials as well. New objects, "including appearance related" outfits and or uniforms with specific equipment attached to each that is needed to even go to a planet. Like any new environment, many things that works on an M class planet do not work everywhere. With new quadrants or a new universe come new travel. This would allow a Defense Force Astroneer a PVP system of their own with molten ground areas, heavy gravity, habitable and inhabitable zones and radiation. Terrain tools that can be modded to spray say, cataplant like orbs. Larger ships to carry more people. Some of these environmentals and objects can cross over to the New quadrant or universe as well for quest line players. Having One M class planet with a stable atmosphere, would be a surprise and welcome change for a Farming Astroneer, that can plant and grow a variety of space plants, both eatable and craftable. It would however carry with it a metric for depleting health on such a world. Using seeds and spores found throughout the system give them a quest line as well. Planting eatables and fiberlike plants that produce other crafting materials. They could create potted, vertical and full in ground farms. Sharing such crafting objects with a Terraforming Astroneer, who can do the same thing within a portable atmospheric field and mini hydroponics. These players could be working toward terraforming specific planets or moon types. Items that can extract water vapor from propellants. Upgrading a portable atmospheric field to create a large artificial atmosphere by recycling gases locked in sediment, up to a cyclotron, inside a Bio-dome like structure. These challenges include getting to another planet just like now. However, rockets may not work for some explorations. Realistically, not every place would permit large ships. Some places are truly made up of liquid while others or too hot or have zero gravity. Taking a Shuttle for small hops, or deployment craft from an orbiting mass may be the only way to get there. There will also be a need for Specialized vehicles, tailored to those environments. Again, realistically, some places cannot use a buggy, or rover, but a hovercraft, or subterranean craft is needed. With ancient knowledge, scattered throughout the system in various forms, is the information on How to reach some places otherwise inaccessible. These objects may contain some specialized material or item that is needed to get there. Creating a forward base, having telescopes, specialized life support, a compass or GPS, a communication relay, energy beams. All this would be a great adventure for an Explorer Astroneer. Creating Hydrogen cells, Solar cells, and Methane cells, for energy. Or all new forms of energy never heard of, for a system that is not like our own. Jump drives, Hyper drives, Warp drives, The aforementioned worm holes, black holes and Einstein-Rosen Bridge seeing what a place looked like before. To me, this is so much more awesome than making it harder, adding quality of life items, making surfaces perfect, playing games with the game, adding more, bigger, or additional controls on already existing items. Save it for the bigger game. This game is a wonderful experience, and I truly appreciate all the work that has gone into it.
Th0rn posted a topic in Suggestions and IdeasSo as I was wandering around in Astroneer, y'know as you do, I thought to myself, "Hey, what if I had to deal with problems on each planet?" The idea sprung on me while I was booting up a new game and rushing instantly to a Radiated planet. Environmental Hazards I know that we have sandstorms, or whatever it is you'd like to call them, but what if there were more hazards or detrimental weather? Perhaps they vary from planet to planet, for instance on the moon you'd have meteorites, on an exotic planet you'd have maybe a swarm of carnivorous space wasps or something of the sort. I'm starting off light because I'm unsure of the limitations of the engine. This could really be taken in any direction, maybe even player triggered hazards or preventable disasters like volcanoes or earthquakes, But I think the idea of biome specific hazards is good food for thought. Events When I think of events I mean like these satellites (Or space stations if you've read my other post over Here) crashing on a planet from outer space. Maybe large asteroids with rarer materials or such? Or a even rarer alien clump of debris from 'something' that has a unique research module. The idea of this would give each planet a lot more of an organic feeling with things that can just 'happen' from nothing. Maybe, and this ties in with Environmental Hazards, what about a world destruction event? Massive earthquakes or volcanoes destroying a planet, over time forming an asteroid belt? Of course this is just an idea, we could always just have a few small moon sized asteroids floating about in this belt we could visit. I just really like the idea of asteroid mining. Derelict Alien Structures I've been dwelling on this idea for some time if I'm honest, but I've thought about ancient alien ruins or destroyed technology from a long lost age. From something simple and small like an independent functional refinery or solar array or if you want real big stuck, destroyed planetary structures, I'm talking broken pieces of a Ringworld floating in orbit of a planet, or a half constructed Dyson sphere or something of the like. Interstellar Travel/Wormhole Travel Now this is just a wild idea that I spitballed with a little bit but what if you found one of these structures that provided co-ordinates to a 'Wormhole gate' or something of the like to provide travel to a fresh system, a 1 way trip to a fresh system. This could easily be tied-in with some ideas from Derelict alien structures. Think of it almost like a NG+ mode, you keep research, and whatever small supplies you take with you along with your ship. I can't think of any kind of incentive of going into this 'NG+' mode or somesuch, but feel free to throw together ideas for incentive to travel to another system aside from if you blew up one of the planets from drilling into the core or something, or the sun exploding. Who knows. As always fellow Astrodudes, feedback is appreciated! Edit: Spelling<
Now a Solar Eclipse in RL is the Equivalent of a Full Night in Astroneer, it is Darker, but not really a "Night". What is Currently is: What it should look like (not exactly like this): Early Game Tether also shouldn't Provide that much Light... there could be a sort of End-Game Tether Item, which has More Connection Range and a Bigger Light Radius. I also feel like Planets (except Moons) should have a Visible Atmosphere, so that you can't see the Stars and Planets so Clearly from the Surface during Day, and Only Dimmed during Night. A Good Example for a Working Atmosphere System is SpaceEngine! Day-Night Cycle with a Yellow Atmosphere. And Flying off the Planet during Day, Revealing the Beautiful Sky.